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Post by lord_denton on Jul 25, 2009 12:35:43 GMT -5
EDIT: This poll does NOT factor in shipping + handling, which will vary greatly. I don't know the price of what a SS-sized set is, for printing. But, I'm curious to see what people would pay for this. If styrene costs more than what the most popular option is, we may have to switch to stickers. Here are some rough skematics: -Its a 52-piece set -Islands and gold will be excluded, to save on printing (I'm sure there is more than enough of that lying around) -There will be a new faction to replace the Cursed (Dutch, Portugeese, Danish, proabably) -It will be a historical based set (most choosen poll option, not to mention there is plenty of fantasy in the other 13 sets) -Normal Generic crew may be opted out to include more named crew, no decison has been made (There might be generics for a new faction, and there may be new generics) Nothing is really official yet, thats just how I see how this may turn out.
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Post by chasseur85 on Jul 25, 2009 14:09:29 GMT -5
I don't know the price of what a SS-sized set is, for printing. But, I'm curious to see what people would pay for this. If styrene costs more than what the most popular option is, we may have to switch to stickers. Here are some rough skematics: -Its a 52-piece set -Islands and gold will be excluded, to save on printing (I'm sure there is more than enough of that lying around) -There will be a new faction to replace the Cursed (Dutch, Portugeese, Danish, proabably) -It will be a historical based set (most choosen poll option, not to mention there is plenty of fantasy in the other 13 sets) -Normal Generic crew may be opted out to include more named crew, no decison has been made (There might be generics for a new faction, and there may be new generics) Nothing is really official yet, thats just how I see how this may turn out. lord_denton: perhaps we should add more generic crew to give the game a new feel- just like Savage Shores. maybe spice it up with the people who check fathoms (deep 6, etc. I don't know the names), powder monkeys. I'm not really positive whether or not we should exclude gold and islands because let's say by a random strike of lightning this gets printed on actual styrene and a new player who happened to be reading MT and decided to ask for a pack (this is non-profitable so it makes sense to ask or trade for one.). If he opens it, no doubt it will make him think it's more of a tournament pack rather than a booster. This is presuming IF we make a booster. Will there be a rarity key? That really added flavor into the game. If this DOES get printed on styrene, will there be LE's or promo's?
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Post by lord_denton on Jul 25, 2009 14:29:01 GMT -5
lord_denton: perhaps we should add more generic crew to give the game a new feel- just like Savage Shores. maybe spice it up with the people who check fathoms (deep 6, etc. I don't know the names), powder monkeys. Generic crew, which are avaible in almost every Wizkids set, would make printing more expensive. Also, it would take up slots normaly reserved for other ships/crew. Of course, they only take up one card. So maybe a new generic crew but not old ones ( Captain, Helmsman). Generics, again, are in every Wizkids set. They are there, we don't need to worry about them. ( Except for the new faction, I don't know what will be done then ). I've never known someone who calls themselves a Pirate player if they have never bought a booster before. ( We can thank Wizkids for never giving up with their "Game in every pack!" buissness ideal ) If they don't, then they can just buy the cheap Pirates floating about. Also, yes, I want to keep this strictly non-profit. Unless the artists really insist they must be paid. Getting my name in a set I view as payment on its own. I don't think we will make boosters, its just another pain in the butt. If styrene works out, of course. Eh, if we don't make boosters, I suppose not... I don't think so. We'd need someone to pay for them, then, they aren't really free anymore. Again, this all hinges on what it costs to cut the cards, cut the ships out, ensure they bend properly, and get the art printed. Until then, I just made a theoratical set above, of what the set will likely resemble.
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Post by chasseur85 on Jul 25, 2009 14:41:36 GMT -5
Okay, edit: If there is NO rarity or LE or Promo, then I guess the card will look like a normal card except that annoying tab that says "067" with a red tab will be gone.
That makes. I haven't seen any capn's or helmsmen in SS.
I agree. Already just creating a set with the credits puts the set in the extreme rare, even rare than the SCS set since it will be distrubuted in limited numbers. That is, if we DO make it on styrene.
The Booster Idea rejection does make sense. After all, I bet it's patented like the stud-and-socket idea of Lego's.
No Cursed? That's a relief. Seeing the ol' skeletons makes me bored sick.
And like you send, this is Theoretical.
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Post by The Scarlet Pimpernel on Jul 25, 2009 14:55:49 GMT -5
in order to get more out of less cards we could use only 1 or 2 face crew to a nation and the rest would be double sided. also we could use very few big ships, and have more smaller ninja ships.
price: wow we all picked different ones.
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Post by chasseur85 on Jul 25, 2009 15:01:09 GMT -5
in order to get more out of less cards we could use only 1 or 2 face crew to a nation and the rest would be double sided. also we could use very few big ships, and have more smaller ninja ships. price: wow we all picked different ones. Ninja Ships? I never knew ninjas had boats..... The crew I don't really care, as if it's going to matter the detail of the crew, as long as its useful. Is it possible to make 4 crew on one card, such as the generic, so that we can create more crew? Define big ships please. I define "big" as 6+. Will there be any Turtle or Junks in this game speaking of "big" ships.
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Post by lord_denton on Jul 25, 2009 15:02:12 GMT -5
Actually, we'll still need a set icon ( for online databases ) and card numbering so people know what mast goes to which ship ( the masts will proabably look pretty simaler, since this is historical[almost all sails were white]). Also, Chasseur, your avatar isn't working. Get it fixed, or I shall replace it with this! (Muhwaaaaaa ha ha ha!)
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Sariouriel
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Post by Sariouriel on Jul 25, 2009 15:10:34 GMT -5
Greetings, my fellow sailors!
I think 60$ should be a wise price for the full set, if it was lower - there would be more difficulties in production and such.
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Post by lord_denton on Jul 25, 2009 15:40:07 GMT -5
LOL, I'm the big cheapskate.
Welcome Sariouriel! We're aren't sure how much the cards will exactly cost yet ( unless you have inside information), but, yeah. We will have to do some corner-cutting, but overly-limiting ourselves to cost would make this even more difficult.
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Post by chasseur85 on Jul 25, 2009 16:52:10 GMT -5
Actually, we'll still need a set icon ( for online databases ) and card numbering so people know what mast goes to which ship ( the masts will proabably look pretty simaler, since this is historical[almost all sails were white]). Also, Chasseur, your avatar isn't working. Get it fixed, or I shall replace it with this! (Muhwaaaaaa ha ha ha!) I can see with my own two eyes as 3 fusiliers; 1 standard bearer, a regular, and an officer, all chatting. See?
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Post by The Scarlet Pimpernel on Jul 25, 2009 17:46:06 GMT -5
as to the confusion about the ships, the term ninja was used to desribe an elite agile small ship. small ships make things cheaper via less cards. Here is what i thought about the set setup. French, Spanish, Pirates, American, Brittish, each of these has a five master, a four master, two three masters, two two masters and a one master, and each 3 crew.
the question is do we want equipment, and unique treasure, i would say equipment over UT's because you can make them like the double sided crew.
Also the price of the first series produced will be greater than that of later series, because they will have to make a die to cut out ships with, and later series (say they happen) can use the same die.
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Post by lord_denton on Jul 25, 2009 17:58:17 GMT -5
I can see with my own two eyes as 3 fusiliers; 1 standard bearer, a regular, and an officer, all chatting. See? Perhaps its Vista, because I see this: EDIT: (You can't see previous posts when quoting) Yup. 5 & 4 masters: 3 cards 3 & 2 masters: 2 cards 1 master: 1 card For the square-riggers, atleast. The junks and Galleys follow this too. Something like that (With a new faction, which would be welcomed by fans everywhere). 3 crew means 3 crew slots, because we can fit 2 crew on one card ( maybe more!). Well, if we don't have gold, it would seem rather silly to have Unique treasures. Then, Equitment would only be aviable with a factory set (if we do the faction pack/full set idea), since they don't really belong with different nations. If we can get one set out, why not more?
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Post by Sariouriel on Jul 25, 2009 17:59:48 GMT -5
It all depends on the set type we want to make. If it's all-historical, then it should be okay, but personally I'd go for something more action-oriented (clash of battleships or something). To precise, if we want to concentrate on certain period (i.e. XVI century - Spanish-English Battles, or XVIII century - French and Indian war, known also as Guerre de la Conquete), we should introduce something, that is somehow linked to the period.
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Post by chasseur85 on Jul 25, 2009 19:03:57 GMT -5
It all depends on the set type we want to make. If it's all-historical, then it should be okay, but personally I'd go for something more action-oriented (clash of battleships or something). To precise, if we want to concentrate on certain period (i.e. XVI century - Spanish-English Battles, or XVIII century - French and Indian war, known also as Guerre de la Conquete), we should introduce something, that is somehow linked to the period. The Seven Year's War didn't have much action, nor did the French and Indian War in terms of sea, mostly just securing coastal positions or countering invasions. As for the XVI century, there were very few ships over 40 cannons, so this means that 4 masters + are out of the picture. Most likely we'd be going for action during the Anglo-Dutch war and the Spanish War of Succession where the Dutch privateers were highly involved, or the early to mid 18th century where massive fighting erupted. (I don't count the F&I war as the mid 18th century).
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Post by The Scarlet Pimpernel on Jul 25, 2009 19:07:46 GMT -5
i created a poll on this topic of time period based on wars please vote.
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